Transcript 27- Maya

"I think that like the community... the people I met in treatment were incredible. Um, and I'm still friends with some of them. Um, but it's like... making friends in a treatment setting is really kind of hard because you all recover at different rates. So like, when I was doing really well, some of my friends weren't. And like that's when you need to make the decision, do I want to keep this person in my life and potentially have it affect my recovery or do I want to cut this person out because they're bringing me down and like... I did have to... cut some people out of my life because they weren't getting better and it wasn't helping me. And that's like a really hard thing to do and it feels like betrayal on my end, like to that person."

Transcript 26- Cass

"So there was definitely this feeling that like... right, there's... there's sort of like the idea of like this like platonic man as like macho meat eater, easy to get into fights, probably does something blue collar, um, like... will bury their emotions until they die. Um, and then there's sort of like... how men actually are in practice, which is like... just them but like... colored by some of those things sometimes. Like you can't not be defined on or against that. Um, and so...you know, there... there was definitely a period of time being like, "all right, how can I like, carve out a space of masculinity for myself that like doesn't need to sort of like, make room for... for... for like these things that I don't really like... want to even kind of interact with?" Um, and like... at first it felt like a selfish thing. Like, "oh no, like I'm a man, I still need to address the ways in which men are shitty because I'm a man and men are shitty". Um, but as I sort of... as it went on, I was like, "oh no, it's not quite that simple". "

Transcript 25- Valeria

No professional fields have been really nice to women. But the sciences have been particularly cruel and I just feel like I have to do really well to prove that I deserve to be there cause if I fuck up, it's not just on me. It reflects on everyone who has a similar identity or presents similarly... Men are allowed to stand on their own and be like, “Hi, I am my own person”. Specifically white men, I should say. Whereas one woman is supposed to represent all of them. So like... in the 2016 presidential election when Hillary lost many people said, “Oh well this just proves we're not ready for a woman. We shouldn't have tried a woman because no woman can do it”. And it's just like... she is one person. You don't look at every man who's lost a presidential race and say, “Oh wow, well we could never have a man because look what happened when this one tried”.